The Silver Salon Forums are open to anyone with an interest in silver and a willingness to share. Know little or nothing about silver? Don't worry! Anyone with a genuine desire to explore the subject of silver and related metal crafts is welcome. How old are American souvenir spoons? There is considerable evidence that souvenir spoons were being collected in the United States prior to
Personally, wouldn't think that folks just spontaneously started collecting souvenir spoons at any particular given date - the phrase in the snippet you mention, "began in earnest ", is clear indicator that they'd been collected prior to the craze. To my mind, the patent for the Niagara Falls spoon, whether produced or not, seems to indicate that the designer thought there would be an interest.
With all due respect to the late Mr. Hardt I have all four of his books, find them both useful and enjoyablethere's quite a bit of supposition on his part.
This process of applying a thin layer of silver to a base metal body was first widely employed in the s, so a silver-plated spoon will be no earlier than this date. Most surviving spoons dating from before this time would have been made of solid silver, although the poor might use crude spoons of less durable materials such as wood or horn.
To my eye, the spoon you show, so similar to the one in his New Discoveries in Historical Spoonsappears to have a typical late 19th-early 20th century etched bowl design; not sure the spoon could be dated no later than the s unless the unmentioned marks do sobut regardless, the engraving could have been done at any time to commemorate the Boston Tea Party.
He notes an increased interest in spoon collecting in the s, with Gorham catering to that market with sets like Nuremburg, Old Paris, etc. The first true Gorham souvenir spoons seem to have been made in Suspect there are spoons I'd consider souvenirs, that you might not Thank you so much for your efforts! I really appreciate your edits while I learn how this is done I didn't post it twice, my computer appears to have hiccuped!
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My spoon is actually very, very similar to the one in Hardt and I believe was made by the same shop. The box of tea on the handle with the under it are virtually identical. The etching in the bowl is a bit different but since that's hand done that makes sense.
Here's another spoon that probably comes from the same shop and is very similar. This die-stamped flatware pattern is Rustic by A.
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Towle which was introduced in The Arcadia Hotel, pictured in the bowl, was built in and demolished in According to photos in the Santa Monica Library the coast around the hotel was crowded with a bath house and other hotels not pictured well before Could this spoon have been created as a souvenir by having the Santa Monica scene etched into the bowl in, or soon after, ?
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It was created as a souvenir spoon when the word Alaska was etched into the bowl. This is clearly a die-stamped spoon, it's thick through the stem and very heavy in comparison to early fiddleback spoons but it's clearly influenced by early fiddleback patterns.
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And this flatware pattern is Gorham's Hawthorne which was introduced in This one was created as a souvenir spoon when the name St. Augustine was etched into the bowl. All of these sterling silver flatware patterns were available well before and all of these spoons could have been created as souvenirs before but there is no way to prove it This suggests to me they were added later and perhaps not by the original spoon makers.
Of course anything is possible but I think it is wishful thinking to hope that the souvenir engravings were in the first few years of these patterns given the timing of the craze for collecting souvenir spoons. What is really needed is some proof that these were being sold at some point in time - something like seeing them in old newspaper advertisements, old jeweler's catalogs, etc.
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That's the point. These were souvenirs created when decoration was added to a spoon from an existing flatware pattern. Etching is actually easy to do with the proper acid and resist to protect the areas that you don't want eaten away by the acid - these are supplies would have been available in almost any jewelry or watchmakers shop.
So many of the scenes found on these flatware spoon souvenirs commemorate things or people from prior to that it seems probable that at least a percentage of them do pre-date Unfortunately there is almost no empirical evidence that the spoons pre-date There are thousands of these created souvenir spoons.
Don't believe there's any question that local retailers, etc. Not sure how much weight can be given to differences in details on the depictions of locations, suspect that the craftsmen's renditions were taken from illustrations or photographs that may or may not have been current, plus the standard 'artistic license'. Don't believe it would be unusual to note the date of a past event, many of the mass-produced die-struck souvenir spoons included the date of a past historic event.
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Personally, wouldn't guess your lovely spoons earlier than the s, and unfortunately, as Kimo suggests, earlier dating might be difficult to prove without some dated print references - hopefully, further research will turn those up. Oddly, Turner shows the pattern as a c. Public Silver Forums open Free membership - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
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ElfKat Posts: 33 Registered: Apr Kimo Posts: Registered: Mar Therefore a spoon made in two pieces in likely to be very early indeed. Inspect the proportions of the spoon.
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Until the late 17th century, says Helliwell, bowls tended to be large in proportion to the stems, which were slender and delicate up to this point. Examine the spoon for decoration.
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Apart from apostle spoons, with finials in the shape of saints, most spoons made before will look attractively plain to the modern eye. Helliwell explains that during the 19th century, decoration became more elaborate, more extensive and more heavily embossed, extending even to the bowl in the case of fruit spoons.
During the 20th century, practical plainness became the norm again. Heavy decoration therefore suggests a 19th century date, although Helliwell also points out that some earlier spoons were restyled during this period. These marks indicate silver plate.
This process of applying a thin layer of silver to a base metal body was first widely employed in the s, so a silver-plated spoon will be no earlier than this date.