Rejection can be such a conundrum because it seems as though no matter how early you experience it, it can still really sting. When it comes to understanding how to deal with dating rejection, normalizing the idea that it has no reflection on your worth is a great place to start. Additionally, according to a study of rejection published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, it's also important to understand that rejection stings for a reason, and it's not because you're overly sensitive or weak. In this study, MRI scans of 40 of subjects showed that physical pain and social rejection stimulate the same areas of the brain. So there's a reason why being rejected can cause that pang deep in the your chest, and it's an experience many are familiar with. Whether you get dumped, ghosted, or turned down after asking someone out, rejection can come in many forms and it's OK to be hurt by it. Understanding how it impacts you can help you process the shame surrounding an experience that's unfortunately integral when searching for companionship, sex, love, and relationships.
And that draws me like a moth to a flame. It just makes me feel safe and I can let down my rather high guard and become attracted to them. I see the pitfalls of that. My instincts are usually dead-on, the meet meet are usually super-kind. That danger thing and discomfort that a lot of women need for attraction? Just cues a blaring alarm for me, not unlike the red alert alarm on the old Star Trek. The man might be smoking hot, but the blaring of that alarm will mitigate that hotness every time.
Taking a 10 down to a 7 to me, maybe even to a 6. Which is fine. There are enough women out there wanting the 10s. Heck, the 6s too! I recently moved and I could tell right away the man who is now my landlord was a really good guy and someone I could trust when I spoke to him over the phone. I rented a room from a lady while I was in transition between school and work and the same thing happened. I had a feeling over the phone that she was someone I could trust and we are still friends even after I moved.
Thanks Emily, for responding to my comment. But it is not. I think if we use all of our instincts and senses it would probably save us a lot of drama in the long run. You can be yourself with someone. But the added element of attraction idk. It tends to skew everything. He makes passes at me all the time by flirting or making comments nice comments, nothing disrespectful but it is clearly high interest.
But he is also around 55 years old and looks like a turtle. I am over 20 years younger than him. But for some reason, he is convinced that hitting on me is a good idea. So of course he gets rejected. But nooooo, he just has to think that I will somehow find him remotely attractive. Your extreme example says nothing about men your age who put themselves out for rejection every day.
Amazing that all you can summon is some shitty story about a clueless man. Stop defending yourself for a moment and be a human being. This is the NORM for men. You have female clients so you should know this better than anyone. Not sure if you remember a past commenter named Obsidian. He was a short, middle aged, blue collar, unattractive, overweight black man with a pretty shitty disposition. As you can imagine, or maybe you remember no one had any empathy for him. So how would you feel if you were a 4?
I have a friend who is a 5. Her husband is a 4, but she has described him as handsome many times. I have another friend who is a I work with a man who told me what female coworker he thinks is the most attractive.
I was shocked in that she is a very average-looking middle-aged woman, and there are women I work with who are far more attractive. Surely there are average-looking people married to other average-looking people who are happy and find their partners attractive.
But the post was about empathy. So are you able to only have empathy for guys who get rejected by women in their own league or can you also summon a little empathy for guys that get rejected by women outside their league? I was shooting out of my league. He was out of your league. Women experience rejection, too.
If I was repeatedly throwing myself at some year-old, college-football-quarterback hottie, should I be surprised at his rejection? But, by sll means, continue with the straw man arguments.
Couple of points here. First, I believe you state down thread a few posts that your own age is Why, why how dare a man perhaps 15 or 16 years your senior even dare to think he might have a chance with you, hmmm? Yet, here you are feeling terribly aggrieved and insulted that he very politely hit on you. Just a thought, that maybe life is better, with a little more gratitude, and a little less disdain.
Feels better to me that way; might for you as well. Rejection takes place within leagues as well. I agree with you, Shaukat. Btw, men my age do not contact me. If I look at almost any profile of the guy on Match who is around my agetheir age ranges are usually from or even The average age of the guys who write to me is I did the math.
Yes, all the guys over 50 are rejected by me as I can predict that most guys in the range are rejected by 25 year olds they are trying to hit on. Should I feel empathy that a guy who is older than me sets his upper limit to 32 and then cries that he is rejected? I am automatically rejected by almost all the guys who are even 5 years older than me. If you are in your forties, then you should not be rejecting guys who are It is not like you are in your early twenties passing on a guy who is You are not a young woman.
You need to increase your age. By the way, while I do not chase women younger than 45, they do contact me. I politely inform them that I prefer to be with a woman who has a few more miles in her rear-view mirror. I got responses about half the time when I did it, even from some men who had a younger stated age range than me I did online dating from my early 30s to mids, until I met my husband.
I also hedged my bets by also writing to the men who included me in their age range. I found that some men really are rigid about their age preferences-while others, for whatever reason, were open to meeting me despite their age range. They assumed rightly or wrongly that most women in that category would be younger, so they put a younger range down.
However, then when they got an email from a something, never married woman without kids, they were open to meeting her, despite what they had put down for the age range. In my own experience, not all men are equally rigid about their stated age range. Just some thoughts from my own experience.
I do have 5 years down and 7 years up in my age limit and I am not open to date someone much older, sorry, my parents had me very young and my dad usually looks better than those older guys who write to me.
I had a female friend who is 45 years old. She only dated guys in their earlier 30s.
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These 30 something guys were broke, immature and had barely left their parents basement. All her young boyfriends always left her for a younger woman and she was cluelessly shocked and heart-broken every time.
I gave her some viable reasons for doing so and she ended up dating a 55 year old guy who was good-looking, smart and quite wealthy. Her and her older boyfriend recently went on the trip to Italy and stayed in nice hotels instead of hostels. Some 40 year old women may still want to have children while a 50 something man has older kids already and wants nothing to do with the diaper scene.
Or a 40 year old woman may have young kids and wants a single dad who totally gets that because he does too. Then there are energy and health issues like you mentioned. Evan said that what the guy was missing is that what he wants in a woman has no bearing on what those women want in a man. It has no bearing on what the woman wants. Sure if a 40 year old woman is open to 50 plus men, she will greatly increase the number of guys who are interested in her. I never even dated guys in their 50s, late 40s was the oldest and our lifestyles and temperaments already did not match, especially the sex part.
In my social circles, where most people work in tech and have advanced degrees, women prefer to date their peers and to have compatible lifestyles.
Not even one. Few months ago I met a guy at tech event and he asked for my number. I came home and checked Match and yes, I had him in my favorites but never wrote to him because his upper limit was The story she tells is very common. In most ways I agree with Tracy. Being a man I empathize with other men, being human, I sympathize with Tracy and other women.
Rejection is rough regardless of gender but rougher on those who accumulate more rejection than others compounded by a declining ability to continue to rationalize and accept their own self-worth.
While not everyone no one? What man or woman looks at their habits and disdains the erroneous ones? What can I do about my affronting habits, my predispositions and my predilections? If I cannot presently change my economic situation, my physical challenges, my race, my intelligence quotient; what parts of me are of value or can be changed now or if deemed positive accentuated.? Common grounds are one necessary component for a positive, productive, encouraging, loving, peaceful and lasting relationship.
I am 39 and I made a typo earlier. I corrected it earlier but for some reason, the post either was not allowed to go through or just did not go through. That reminds me of a woman whom I met at church and later dated. I thought she was about 5 years younger than me. Just out of curiosity, were you aware that I was 39 and my wife was 55 when we started dating?
About 6 months beforehand, I had been under the impression that she was about 50, and she had assumed that I was in my 20s.
I used some of the money I won off of you. I am not one who overstates my attractiveness and I am well aware that many people think they look younger than their age but I guarantee that in my case, it is actually true. There is no way this man thought I was older than I am. Men constantly go after women much younger and then act like victims when they are rejected.
But these same men would not dare approach a woman their age. Obviously I am not talking about all men but there is a disproportionate number of men who do so.
Yet, I am supposed to according to an earlier poster at leastbe appreciative because this man is kind and seems like a nice guy and approached me nicely. This poster also said I was outraged. No, there was no outrage. I am never nasty toward him because approaching any women takes guts.
If an overwhelming number of women tell you they have the same experiences, it is because it is true. I think that men publish great photos of themselves and are not so hot in the flesh and I agree with the previous comment that men aim too high sometimes. However, women can be too picky also - we have too many lists, no bald, good shoes, too thin, too fat etc. Men should know that if they surprise women with their witty one liners or different random chat, the woman would be more likely to smile and relax into their conversation.
I disagree. When I ask that not only is it a conversation piece. I want to know that the guy is not unemployed. This question can go both ways. I, actually, abstain from asking this question because I was told I am viewed as a gold digger right away, so now all the guys ask me that first.
Are they gold diggers? And as I live in LA, a lot of guys are writers, actors or movie producers who live with 2 roommates and work few months a year and I am not looking for a 40 year old struggling actor. This guy expects to be asked what I do for a living. Just happened to me literally yesterday: met him at the local inexpensive Italian.
I ordered appetizer and a glass of wine and was absolutely ready to pay for myself. He ordered appetizer, main course and two glasses of wine. When the check came, he took my card and told the waiter to split the check. I paid more than I ate and was really pissed. Obviously, no second date. Evan, in the last 6 months not even one man paid for my dinner, not even one.
And I was on about 15 dates. Women pay much more on upkeep and clothes and now I have to pay for their dinners as well? How could I have been clearer in my request? Women pay much more on upkeep and clothes and now I have to pay for their dinners as well?
Women do not do that for men. They do it for themselves.
I have a bunch of sisters and two daughters. I know women pretty well. I was out with a guy the other day and I paid the bill for all of us. It took him by surprise. And yes he is well off, but a guy should not have to pay all the time no matter how much money they make.
Was I trying to prove something? No, I have a son who I listen to. What would they do if they were? Wear fashionable dresses and heels, style their hair, and put on makeup and perfume. Flow, 1 - those are hardcore butch lesbians sorry for the descriptor. The pretty ones usually on a temporary foray, btw DO wear make-up. Amongst other things. What was it Jimmy Carr non PC extremist, sometimes funny out of sheer gall say?
Straight until wet! Messaged a bit. I had found her biz website and current photo. A 4 second endeavor.
Photos showed some resemblance. No more. Far from truth and misleading advertising. Why are they on OLD seeking men if they do not wish to attract men? Do tell!
And there is little they can do about it! If your assertion is true, why do married women engage in this behavior? From my personal experience, women engage in this behavior mostly to compete with their girlfriends.
By the way, my daughters exhibited the tendency to enjoy shopping therapy long before boys entered the picture. I search for women between 50 and And many of them have photos on their profile that are at least 10 to 20 years old. Personally I believe that it is self-delusion. They want to believe that they still look like that to the world.
I actually have dated one of them multiple times, who used a 10 year old photo of themselves on their profile. Before our first date, she sent me an ated current photo, apparently so that I would know what she looked like when we met at the restaurant. I thought she still looked perfectly fine! Women need to get a grip on reality. If a guy only wants to date 25 year olds, then it is self-defeatist for a 55 year old to put 30 year old photos on their dating profile, the gig will be up on their first meeting in person.
And any guy is just going to be turned off by that. I just find it self-defeating in that it turns me off from bothering to message those types of women on the dating sites. The gig would be up the moment they first met in person. And just what are they competing for? Could it be attention and approval from men? Being considered the prettiest? Because they like the affirmation they get from their husband and other men as well. Because how much a husband values his wife is in part due to how much he is attracted to her.
YAG, my guy is thrilled at my outfits, always something meant to catch his eye. No, it is all for him, nkt for my GFs or sisters. Women do not spend a lot of money and time to look good to compete with their girlfriends, haha. Do they put breast implants and do other invasive procedures for their girlfriends? One of my friends told me that his ex girlfriend never had a manicure or used make up.
Fake boobs lower my opinion of a woman. I can pick a woman with fake boobs out in a crowd I have seen enough of them in the flesh. I would rather a woman be a natural A-cup than a fake D-cup. It just looks wrong after she removes her bra. Besides remaining upright when she lies down, the areolas and nipples almost never match the cup size. A woman with large natural breasts usually has larger areolas and nipples, and that is part of makes big boobs sexy. You know, this brings up the question for me: How can I politely, respectfully, appreciatively indicate that I want and expect men to pay the check when they take me out?
My past compromise was to list free activities as possible dates, so that the gentleman in question had no doubt that I was open to non-monetary based dates. I do prefer a man that has enough money for both of us. It prevents him having to worry about it and money being a bone of contention for us. Quirky and dangerous expectation. On audition, go Dutch! On a date, depends. There cases of false advertising. Not saying you do that. But why should a guy pay for a disappointment?
Keep in mind that double the salary does not equate double the disposable income. And viable pairings should be able to discuss financial matters with ease. In this day and age, I expect a woman to participate. I state on OLD that I want a woman to be financially independent from me, not wealthy. But after dinner, you might spring for coffee anddessert elsewhere, or drinks not a binge on 21 y.
Without coming off as a goldigger. I can relate to not having a huge salary, but I would feel really uncomfortable making no contribution to dates. I guess otherwise, sugat daddies could be an option. FG, is my springing for coffee and dessert elsewhere fair? Partly because my Dad, who was single late in life, and who often did not know the right thing to do, but always found paying the bill for dinner a source of providing appreciation and showing feelings which he had difficulty expressing verbally.
Also, I was married to someone who wanted me to foot the bill for his lifestyle - a big house, several cars, trips, etc. I know I want a relationship with someone who has enough money to pay for the things he wants, because I know my wants are simple and usually not based on money.
But I will happily bring things to a date that I bought before the date. I like to do things on my dates that DO generate that feeling, but that rarely translates to my paying a bill. No one has to pay anything. But during that time I am fully present - listening, nodding, smiling, answering questions, getting to know the man in question, with my phone in my pocket where it belongs.
Surely that shows my date my interest and valuing of him more than paying a check. In fact, they often go out of their way to ask for second dates or suggest going more expensive places, buying me things, or going on trips, etc. ScottH, happens all the time. Those who are willing, do. The guy in question texts at 11pm: Wanna come over? She knows that this is a pretext for sex. There are plenty of women who are interested in just sex.
You find that UNfair? Both parties cover both realms. Have mammoth steak! FG, I said it was fair, not that it was unfair. Those factors actually do make a difference. So I like things precise, and tea cures all ills.
When I was married, my husband either paid the bills or handed me the ones he wanted me to pay. BUT - he paid for every date we ever had - which mostly included meals at Taco Bell or the equivalent. I adored him. For me, it is literally not about the dollars. The HUGE thing missing in my marriage was initiative. By taking me on free dates, he can honor his own boundary in a way that costs only time. It shows me he can be a creative problem solver. Please, TELL me what you want. How can I politely, respectfully, appreciatively indicate that I want and expect women to put out sexually when I take them out.
Are you admitting to being a gold-digger? A princess? You think that highly of yourself that you should always and expect always be treated? I have been on just too many dates in the past 5 years where the women were utter princesses who expected the man to do everything and pay for everything.
And there we have it folks gold-digger. Sorry, I would never date you. Or at least no second date once I found out what type of person you are.
You may as well lay all of your demands on the line.
Feb 19, Here's What To Do 1. If you aren't able to GET a date (i.e. you're not getting asked out or you're not getting a yes when you ask), you 2. If you get to a FIRST date but not a SECOND (i.e. they didn't ask you out again or didn't say yes when you asked), 3. If . Apr 09, Getting rejected has a surprisingly good side to it, and that's the fact that you're putting yourself out there. Trying and failing is the best . If you're going to understand the male dating experience, a great place to look is online, where, generally, as in real-life, men are the pursuers and women are the pursued. According to this juicy infographic, 69of men got rejected before the first date. Which means the most likely way a woman will reject a man is to ignore him.
That is an interesting point of view. I am what some people refer to as a weak six-footer. Some guys round up, but I always truncate the fraction when declaring my height. Have you entertained dating taller than average women? That is reasonable. Couple this requirement with the need by a large proper subset of professional women to date a man who holds an advanced degree, and the pools drop to 1 in 50 and 1 in 70, respectively.
Half of the men in both pools are married, so women are looking at 1 in and 1 and men, respectively. Add race, religion and pesky little subjective factors such as attractiveness, and the pools decrease in size to around 1 in 1, and 1 in 1, and we have yet to add income to the equation. A woman has a greater chance of being struck by a moving freight train than finding love in either of these pools.
Being a member of either of these pools is an unbelievable advantage when it comes to dating. I have no doubt that you are proud to be a gold-digger.
You probably believe that it is your personal right to have and own Mr. And you totally missed the entire point of my comment, which I knew you would. Had a man posted onto this blog what I extrapolated from your initial post but changed a couple of words, he would have been crucified by most everyone else and ran off of the blog. But that is our modern world. It is perfectly acceptable for women to be princesses and gold-diggers. But no man had dare say anything that could be construed as sexist or anti-feminist.
That is unacceptable of him. It is the current list or metric than many women are using to determine the quality of a man. Google it. A fun read. Then she still said that I was not tall enough. My point exactly in many of my posts. Their demands in what they seek for a man are totally unreasonable. This is nothing new, it has been documented for centuries.
Proverbs was written around BC. And while I do get a decent number of dates, almost all women reject me for height, income, house, etc. I think when a man always pays, it changes the dynamic of the relationship and I am not looking for that kind of relationship.
I want to pay for our entertainment because I also enjoy it. I guess guys are attracted to younger women, women are attracted to guys who pay? In an LTR context, how much we men value a woman may have much more to do w common history than mere attraction to her. Men age more gracefully than women. Generally speaking. No, men do not it the wall atwe extend beyond that in staying power. Women do hit A wall at Some manage it very well, mot do not!
Women compete with each other.
Oct 11, I'm a senior male trying to get my last girlfriend. I get "signals" from women half my age (smiles, etc.) and there's a particular woman who loves talking to me at the park. All well and good. My problem is with online dating. I don't have a problem getting "likes" and getting the first date. Apr 27, Guys, These Are The 7 Reasons You Keep Getting Rejected By Women 1. She's already committed. Whether she has a boyfriend, a crush on someone or is stuck on her ex, she won't give you a 2. Your looks don't match her standards. In other words, you are not in her league or her "type" of guy. The Author: Kyle C. Jun 04, Bad dating experiences prompt the voices in my head to chime in with, "You were rejected AGAIN. No one will ever love you. No one will ever love you. You're going to be alone forever.
Over 3M Google pages, but again, likely quite a few irrelevant duds. Bump into the actual winner what are the odds. Come with? At the restaurant, I sat at the head of the table, my gf on my left, winner on my right, singer next to my gf, others rejoined us. The winner played footsie. I did not reciprocate. She draped her leg over mine. I ignored it.
A woman I meet nowadays could possibly become my everything so to speak. And be beautiful in my eyes and consideration.
Women compete. And they are downright mean to one another. Did the winner actually want me? I rather think she was annoyed my gf had me. I would encourage you to find a new hobby. I totally concur. Over the past few years I have found dating sites to be, for the most part, toxic and depressing.
Probably for both men and women. This makes a lot of sense. But we have to in order to eventually get a relationship. One thing I found invaluable was talking to male friends and brother-in-law about their prior dating experiences.
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Hearing from them reminded me that there are good men out there too, who also yearn for that connection. In any case, it certainly felt better and made me happier. Rick and Morty 9. Danaellen wrote a thoughtful post, and had a tone of trying to sppear to be really nice. She is spot-on. None of your 10 points are me. You sound frustrated or bitter. Thank you for sharing your experiences. It was a real wake up call because I had many faulty assumptions.
You sound like a real nice down to earth guy. I wish you well. Yet despite all this rejection they refuse to get help, coachingimprove their online dating skills or god forbi try to. Whatever works well for you!
I have seen a handful of article stating exactly the same thing. The comments from most of the female posters on this thread except for kk just illustrate their utter cluelessness when it comes to the male experience in this area.
Better yet, send out messages using those profiles and see which one has an easier time setting up a date. That must be frustrating and I do feel for you guys. I appreciate that you all keep making an effort and approaching despite the rejection. What world are you living in? Men need to try harder, not quantity over quality. Or should they laugh and dismiss their female counterparts as you do to men?
On bumble about 60pc of men if not more never respond to me initiating the chat. Those are the men who already swiped right on me to begin with, so must have thought I was somewhat desirable? If you want to minimize rejection - lower your standards until everybody you approach is ecstatic to date you. If you want to maximize the outcome find the most desirable partner - lots of rejection is inevitable.
It is an odd application of game theory.
That said, in convos w an appealing gal who worked in the auto industry, she revealed that in her neck of the woods our initial convo was an oddity in terms of location men message a lot but fail to follow up and meet. There was nothing wrong w her and a lot of things right and she mentioned a handful of foot fetishists and one cross-dresser.
Life is a comedy! Did you bother to write well-composed messages that demonstrated that you actually read their profiles? So I guess I empathize with all of us, male and female, on the online dating scene.
Women get rejected. In fact women who do NOT get pursued by single men around them are getting rejected bec. So, can men apply that same logic? Passive rejection and active rejection are not the same thing. Men who write those types of messages do not receive responses either.
I wish I knew how to add a photo of myself to my avatar so you would get my point. My point was when a very attractive woman emails men on a dating site, they reject her, thinking something is wrong. I had many more dates from real life. Online, I was a wallflower. In my experience Many women do believe they are the same.
I have a number of female friends. They even say this often about events when they were younger or in school and some guy they liked was not showing them interest. And if you were to ask the woman if she had asked him out and he said no, I guarantee you will get a blank look of confusion from her, since she will believe that is the same concept to what she just said. With many women, to them, not acknowledging them is rejecting them. You just have to learn and realize that women think totally differently then men.
Over the years that I have had female friends, I have had to dramatically change my viewpoint when I am talking with them, in order to understand and empathize with them when they are discussing things about their life. But it is a rejection. As a general rule, men still do the pursuing. If, for example, in high school, a young woman really liked a guy and he instead asked her friend out, she will experience rejection.
However, a few years ago a female acquaintance who has had different experiences posed that point of view to me. I have heard some women say this. As an older woman when I hear this, I say nothing bec.
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I jest. That is all that RickAndMorty is saying. The same is true for men. Call it being overlooked. Or not being considered.
Not online, but I think most women have, at some point in their lives, had a huge crush on a male acquaintance in their social circle and watched with horror as he pursued other women. Or really liked one of their guy friends and listened to him ramble on about some other woman he is hung up on.
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Trust me: It hurts, and probably just as much as when a woman declines a date for men. I feel not only empathy but admiration for the men who are sincerely trying. It must be so hard to put yourself out there and get shot down but keep on going, day after day.
I may have to get a second tub of popcorn because what we have here is full-blown female entitlement syndrome on display. Women demand that men approach, plan, and pay, but only if they are the right men. Men do not relish the idea of being rejected; however, rejection is the price a man has to pay to play the game. If anything, women are the gender that is clueless when it comes to SMV. Men have to pursue; therefore, they tend seek women with equal or lower SMVs because it lowers the probability of being rejected.
A woman who is continuously getting pumped and dumped is usually attempting to date men with a higher SMV. I see this dynamic play out on the dating sites all of the time. Guys routinely date down SMV-wise because it makes getting laid much easier. A guy does not need to be sexually attracted to a woman to pursue her for sex. All he needs to be is horny. Sex is sex to most men. One group thinks their back pain is excruciating and the other group thinks their knee pain is excruciating and they all think they hurt worse than anyone else.
I still believe that women are the more clueless gender when it comes to SMV. I have received messages from a few extremely plump ladies that were WTF moments. I even posted a non-shirtless gym photo to prove that I am actually athletically-built. Why would a plus-size woman believe that she has chance with a guy who works out at least 5 days a week?
Our life styles are radically different. When I inform a larger lady that our lifestyles may not mesh, her response is always along the lines that I can be her personal trainer. Ditto for huge differences in education and income levels, 20 something dudes, guys into redneck or pot-friendly lifestyles.
One truly has to BE the sort of person you want to date, regardless of gender. Who the hell knows why plump or obese women even write to an obviously superior specimen as yourself. What I cannot understand is: why you or Noquay or anyone else even replies back to someone in whom they have no interest. You do not know the person, you have never met, you owe them nothing. Delete the message and move on if not interested. I am in exactly the same boat. However I have on occasion dated larger women just because the majority of women have over inflated SMVs of themselves.
I put on 50 pounds from starting my own firm. I just recently joined Cross Fit, which is very consistent with the lifestyle of pre-self-employed me. You should look for other things rather than instantly crossing them off your list. I need to be sexually aroused by a women in order to pursue her.
Extremely plump women do not invoke that response. As has been mentioned many times on this blog, there is a lid for every pot. When a woman loses her waist, she loses the ability to attract men because hip-to-waist ratio is a primal trigger to which the majority of men respond. Tracy Reifkind is a prime example of what can be accomplished via lifestyle alteration.
Tracy was in her forties when she turned her life around. She weighed lbs when she started her program. You remembered. Thin but not tall.
About my height. That is a statistical anomaly. What gender has the greater grasp of reality? There are women who are entitled, certainly. Are they most of the women in the world - no. Are women in the Congo entitled? Are women working in sweatshops entitled? Are women in abusive relationships entitled? Are the vast majority of women in my family and social circle entitled. No, no and no. There are also some men, on this site, who are very entitled, and have a massive superiority complex, and you are one of the worst offenders.
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And rely on statistics, trends and studies to try to make sense of the world. Instead of relating to people in an authentic and vulnerable way. I can assure you that my list of requirements is dwarfed by those of the women I date. My list is actually not horribly long.
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There are things on which I will not budge such as I will not date a woman who is a grandmother she is at a different point her life or a woman who is not a college graduate been there, done that, have the t-shirt and memories of mind-numbing conversations to prove itbut almost everything is negotiable to a point. Really YAG, no grandmothers and must have a degree?
I do not care what a woman looks like if she is a grandmother or does not have degree. All 8s becomes 6s over time. I desire an educated women whose children are close in age to my own. My children are entering their senior year in high school.
My preference is for a women between the ages of 46 and 51, but that is not cast in stone. Most American men are unattractive to most women but we date them anyway because relationships are most inportant.
In Europe however, I find the majority of men attractive. Meanwhile many Euro women are also more attractive than the average American counterpart. The same data set shows men accurately rate women, resulting in a bell shaped curve. Does this mean that men feel entitled or are clueless about their own SMV?
No, it is simply about rejection. Guys are acutely aware of where they fall in the pecking order. They have to pursue. It is a lot easier to accept being rejected by a pretty woman than an average one. There is nothing more humbling than being rejected by a woman with an equal or lower SMV. One thing I would like to know is if this messaging behavior is age dependent. I cannot imagine an older man who is seriously looking for a partner shooting for the stars unless he is equally attractive or well-heeled.
It is just not worth the hassle. For example, I was liked by yet another very attractive woman, and I passed because I associate beautiful women with debt. I spent my twenties with high-maintenance Barbies. Those years were filled with chemical romances that burned white hot and extinguished almost as fast as they caught fire. However, their lasting effect was that I found myself in quite a bit of credit card debt that took several years to pay down. It was not all that much compared to the credit card debt that people have today, but it was hard-learned lesson.
Besides teaching me to never run a credit card balance if it can be avoided, that experience left an indelible mark on my psyche that equates beautiful woman with living beyond my means. That is something I am no longer willing to entertain, so I now only date women in the 5 to 7 range who are girly, but are otherwise modest in their needs.
We were very good financial partners. The thing about women who the 5 to 7 range who are girly is that huge part of their attractiveness cannot be ascertained until a man meets them because their feminine energy is a huge part of what makes them so desirable.
It comes through in how she communicates, her word choice, how she pauses, her tone and inflection. It is a beautiful thing. I have posted that link before on this blog as well. I feel that this is simply one of the problems with online dating sites in general. YAG, you said you will not date anyone unless they have a college degree. Well I have a doctorate of jurisprudence degree. He knows three languages, also. He is only 5 foot 9 inches tall, with a hand wave to DeeGee.
Not necessarily, but I think this study really illustrates that dating is hard for both genders, just for different reasons.
I really feel a lot of empathy for the guys who try very hard and get rejected. And I hope they find enough success to keep their spirits up. But I also think there is a subset of guys who would do better if they cast their nets a little wider.
Maybe message someone they find average looking but witty on a few occasions? Or a woman with an interesting job? After all, their personality is what makes a long term relationship work in the end. No one is entitled to anything and certainly never entitled to dates or even finding love. And reread what you wrote. You said a woman who continually gets pumped and dumped is usually attempting to date men above her SMVokay, same for menthat is my point. Men are the gatekeepers of relationships, remember?
If a man experiences consistent rejection, I would argue that it is because of this same issue. Now tell me why on earth would I have empathy for this? Funny how somehow a simple acknowledgment that men need to change their mindset to achieve better second date results means I am bitter. I also had some really great dates.
The guys who actually looked like their pictures, were respectful, and wanted to actually know about me all got second dates. I honestly believe that your myopia on this issue is so thick you could cut it with a knife. On a different thread you stated that your online profile was extremely short and generic and that you still received over fifty messages a week, despite the fact that you would ignore any man with a similar profile.
Which benefits us all! And I put it into practice if I can. Unfortunately there are too many people on here men and women who are here just to point the finger and are breathtakingly blind to their own biases, flaws, hypocrisy and shortsightedness.
Any woman who claims women get rejected more than men is clearly hurting from some recent rejection or has a badly written profile or is terrible at flirting. And at least offer to pay occasionally. And men, come to Sydney and tell women they are beautiful and ask for our phone numbers. So why should I feel empathy for something that a man can change by learning to be a better man in this regard. That is no credit to men being more mature or any of that bullshit.
So of course I will get tons of messages because many men at first tend to think with their dicks. Not my fault. It is actually not the same issue. I have been rejected by women with equal and lower SMVs. I have had much more attractive women ask me why asked these women out. Women are more selective and much more critical than men. A women will reject a man for host of things other than looks.
While woman are liberated, dating is not. Women still hold onto the anachronistic belief that a man should pursue, plan, and pay if he is interested, but all a woman has to do to demonstrate her interest is show up.
Keep that in mind, and look past the design design disaster to see the real man. Making a living and supporting a family is important. Being able to maintain an acceptable, and realisticstandard of living is too. But how a man accomplishes that feat is not important. Your goal should be to find a man who will be a loving and caring husband and father.
The letters after his name should be irrelevant to your decision. Financial fortunes go up and down. Integrity, respect, caring and sensitivity remain forever. Big deal. Are you looking for a PR pro or a loving partner? There was a great article in the Wall Street Journal that talks about how some men show their love and affection in their actions instead of in their words.
I know you want your man to serenade you with verbal expressions of his undying affection, but would you settle for a guy who washes the dishes, takes out the garbage and buys you flowers on a regular basis? How about a guy who wakes up early on weekends to take care of the kids so you can sleep in?
Actions speak louder than words. Go for the doer over the talker every time. Women reject men for a wide variety of reasons. Some of those reasons are valid and men should take them to heart and use them as guidance to improve themselves. The clothing one has always been a pet peeve of mine. I can even take the clothes that another guy is wearing that is deemed cool and put them on my dog, are the women going to date my dog now because he has swagger?
But beyond that why does this even matter? Especially when the styles change every day or at least every generation. Why are we not wearing Togas anymore? Not to be a fashion statement or some status symbol. Women today are choosing guys for abstract crap like clothes, fashion and swaggar over good genetics and this is contributing to the dysgenic trend we have today in the west.
Well there is a very excellent reason why many of us good men are rejected by women. First of all it does take two to tango nowadays since the women now have really changed for the worst of all unfortunately. Most women do prefer rich men today more than ever since they like to be really treated like a real princess since they know that these men will spend a lot of money on them so that they can get the very nice gifts they want.
And most of the women of today to begin with are nothing but users and losers anyway since they will take advantage of these men that are willing to spend the money on them as well. And God forbid if many of us good men were that lucky to meet a good woman that can Accept us for who we really are which it is very difficult today for many women to Accept the man for himself since they have become so very greedy, selfish, spoiled, and very money hungry as well over these years.
Thank God for the women in the good old days since most of them back then were the very best of all compared to these women today. Now i really know why our family members were very blessed to meet one another back then since real love in those days did come very easy too. In fact women are often more vocal and vicious in demanding these things from the opposite sex than men. This is why many males have the experience of being laughed at or dismissed with aplomb by beautiful young women, the females have the right to do so and do not have to worry about social repercussions affecting their sexual legacy.
The females expect to be impregnated by an alpha no matter what they do. Yelling, screaming, DUIs, stupid tattoos, who cares? Men that are laughed at are often shunned by all of the females in a group, destroying their potential for mating hence the fears of rejection. Basically with female independence women have turned men into three groups, nice guys, bad boys and ugly guys.
The good, the bad and the ugly. Lastly you have ugly guys. Ugly guys are simply guys that are not considered at all, be they fat, short, ethnic or frail. So nice guy and bad boy are two sides of the good-looking coin. Ugly is a hopeless gutter. The worst part is what women want is assigned by lotto at birth for the males. Money and status seem to only affect female mate choice marginally and this can be seen with several celebrity males famous for playing comic relief roles or villains; often their wives are plain jane doorstops despite their millions.
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